There's no need for us remove import. Rename it to bulk-create if you want, but why remove it?

There's no need for us remove import. Rename it to bulk-create if you want, but why remove it?

I think if we leave it, we have to explain how to create a good "export" file to be able to "import" - we could explain in detail that you need to run "export" using "cli" command rather than airflowctl. It would be quite confusing to see "import" option and no explanation on how to create the file.

I think we could leave import if we explain that - at least for now we remove export, and explain the relationship to "airflow" CLI, but I find it fairly confusing.

Or do you think @ashb that people will be preparing such import files manually or in other ways? I find it quite improbable, and if we expect it to happen then we likely need to describe the exact format of the import file so that they can do it (but again - I do not find it too likely for users to do it - they would rather use "airflow connection export" after logging in to the airflow pod/contianer/venv - and we should at the very least tell it ito them?

Or am I missing something?

There's no need for us remove import. Rename it to bulk-create if you want, but why remove it?

I think if we leave it, we have to explain how to create a good "export" file to be able to "import" - we could explain in detail that you need to run "export" using "cli" command rather than airflowctl. It would be quite confusing to see "import" option and no explanation on how to create the file.

I think we could leave import if we explain that - at least for now we remove export, and explain the relationship to "airflow" CLI, but I find it fairly confusing.

Or do you think @ashb that people will be preparing such import files manually or in other ways? I find it quite improbable, and if we expect it to happen then we likely need to describe the exact format of the import file so that they can do it (but again - I do not find it too likely for users to do it - they would rather use "airflow connection export" after logging in to the airflow pod/contianer/venv - and we should at the very least tell it ito them?

Or am I missing something?

I see and agree to both of your statements. But if we want admins in future to use airflowctl as well might be "handy" similar like kubectl apply -f ... ... and importing is perfectly secure. Yeah might be confusing first-place but is good if you can also "from remote" import? Better than forcing getting your definitions on the server side to run import on CLI only.

I see and agree to both of your statements. But if we want admins in future to use airflowctl as well might be "handy" similar like kubectl apply -f ... ... and importing is perfectly secure. Yeah might be confusing first-place but is good if you can also "from remote" import? Better than forcing getting your definitions on the server side to run import on CLI only.

Yeah. I am fine to leave it as long as we say "and here is how you can do export". Also I think we should be VERY SPECIFIC when you export connections that the export file should be highly protected. If people will get used to the fact that connection details are hidden, they might not be aware that this file containst such highly sensitive data. I know it's maybe a bit of "hand-holding" the deployment managers, but the "secure-by-design" principle is now an important part of even the CRA framework. Everything that has potential dangerous security consequences should be VERY clearly marked. as such. I would even say that our 'export" feature should by default ask the user to confirm it and explain dangers involved with having to secure the file.

That's why I also it might not be that outrageous to even ask the user - when exporting the file - to provide a passphrase that the export should be encrypted with, and do not allow to run export without long-enough passphrase (and allow for example to specify the passphrase via ENV VARS to allow automation)

I think that would be ultimate way of teliing the Deployment Manager that they shoudl be careful.

The encryption does not have to be done now as part of it of course, but I would say, it should be the end-goal.

The main goal should have both features at once, maybe not now, but we should somehow allow users/administrators to interact with airflowctl for these.
The decision to remove them was based on the fact that we don't have much time for release, and we can add it back in Beta 2 or before RC1. This was the easier path to take. If we explain it thoroughly, it should be sufficient.

I have added the import back. It is compatible with the airflow CLI. I have tested exporting from there and importing using airflowctl. I have added this detail to the tooltip

That will do, yes :)